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Article: 13643 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Problem switching from (ancient) shelltool to CDE's dttool (sol 9!)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:45:37 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Public Access Networks Corp.
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In article <ajtu9t$vss$1@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Alan Coopersmith <alanc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes in comp.unix.solaris:
>|By the way, my problem is *urgent* -- I can't
>|switch over to the blade100, with its just-installed
>|solaris 9, until I can successfully dttool
>|(or xtool or whatever, with sun having finally
>|swiped suntool).
>
>Do you mean dtterm & xterm? There is no dttool & xtool. ( *tool was
>the OpenLook Deskset naming convention. CDE uses dt* for standard CDE
>programs and sdt* for Solaris CDE extensions. X simply uses x* for
^---- Thank you for *that* information!
>program names.)
>
>|(I've read, in comp.unix.solaris, that you can't (either
>|easily, or at all), move the solaris-7 (or 8) shelltool
>|executable to 9 and have it work, because Sun has also
>|removed various other things that are needed for
>|shelltool to run.)
>
>Actually, I think it might, if you install the SUNWol* packages. I've
>heard of people doing it, but never tried myself.
>
>|(1) You say "ls -ls", and the screen (at my "shell
>|account" at the other end, to which I'm dialing into via
>|kermit) fills with, uh, ls-lines.
>|
>|Now do "vi some-file" -- all those ls-lines are still
>|there, just overlaid by the "black" chars in some-file.
>|
>|You hit ^L -- nothing happens.
>|
>|You exit or ^Z vi, and try ^L again; still nothing.
>|
>|You type the cmd "clear"; nothing happens.
>
>Are you setting your terminal type correctly on the other end? It
>should be dtterm or xterm or vt100. If I remember correctly shelltool
>used a TERM of "sun".
(Haven't yet tried vt100.)
Strange -- one time I said echo $TERM and it
said "sun-cmd"; this shelltool says "sun",
and emacs, from *shell*, says "dumb". The dtterm
says "dtterm".
When I answer Panix's (the isp) "terminal? " prompt,
it doesn't complain at "sun-cmd" -- although right
now I cannot remember where I got that from.
Any idea what the "-cmd" suffix adds to it?
Thanks
David